Medical Education US

i completed my engineering in india with an average gpa but i realized that an MD was my calling
What courses or degree do i have to take in the US before taking up my MCAT so that my gpa will depend on those courses

No matter what you take now, your GPA from your undergraduate school will still count. You'll need to take the required pre-med courses. If your grades in the pre-med courses are significantly better, and you have an explanation as to why your original undergraduate grades were not better, then you would want to make sure you explain that in your med school application.

The required pre-med courses are:

1 year biology with lab
1 year general chemistry with lab
1 year organic chemistry with lab
1 year physics

where can i take those pre med courses ?

Those courses would be offered at most if not all 4 year undergraduate colleges (in the US). You would need to take the level of course that someone majoring in that field would take. In other words, you take 1st year biology for biology majors and general chemistry for chemistry majors, etc.

so do i have to take 1 year of each or 1 year of all of them together ?

when my undergraduate gpa is considered then will it be subject specific because in engineering i take over 50 courses.
if so then what subjects do they consider ?

You take 1 year of general chemistry, 1 year of biology, 1 year of organic chemistry, and 1 year of physics. Most people who are taking the courses while studying to receive their undergraduate degree, take the courses spread out over 3 years. Most people who take the courses after receiving a bachelors degree take them over a 2 year period.

As for your GPA, the application has it divided into a non-science GPA and a science GPA. Your engineering courses may fit into the science category. Traditionally, the science GPA is considered to be BCPM - or Biology, chemistry, physicans and mathematics courses. Based on your AMCAS application, your science and non-science GPA will be calculated. From what I understand, they take the department that offers the course as well as the title of the course in determining whether it is part of your science GPA.

Med schools like at your overall GPA, your science GPA, and your non-science GPA. It is not broken down beyond that.

the courses spread out across 2 years... what universities offer those and do they accept international students because most schools ask for permanent residency..
What are the admission criteria

the GPA of my undergraduation... how is it calculated because we have a percentage based scoring system

what the approximate cutoffs of undergrad GPA's and what do i need to score in my premed and MCAT to make my chances better

I can't really offer you much help as to which colleges will accept international applicants and would let you take the required pre-med coures. Most people I know who did that were working one job during the day and then taking night classes and summer school to meet their pre-med requirements. I think they were able to complete their requirements over a 2 year period. I'd suggest you just search around the web for different colleges in whichever area you think you'd be living and see what they offer.

As for how to calculate GPA, you get 4 points for each A, 3 points for a B, and 2 points for a C. You add up the total points and divide by the number of courses. For example, if you have 3 A's and 1 B for a semester, then your GPA that semester would be 3.75 = (4+4+4+3)/4.

As to GPA and MCAT score requirements, you can find more info in my thread of frequently asked questions about medical school requiements and the thread about GPA and MCAT requirements. Basically, to be competitive you should have a 3.5 GPA and 10's on your MCAT sections. Even with that GPA and MCAT, there are no guarantees as medical schools are very competitive.

well we dont have grades wither to calculate GPA
we have scores of a total of 100(Percentages)
Well in case my GPA wasnt great in undergrad in India..
I am planning to do a course in the US... what would you advice to make up for it

Typically, the letter grades are:

90-100 = A
80-90 = B
70-80 = C

So - I would say a gpa of 3.5 would probably be the same as a 92.5% overall maybe?

Unfortunately, there isn't really a way to get rid of low grades. They will always show on your transcripts, as far as I'm aware. If you have a good reason why your grades were low, and you get good grades on all of your courses now, then you would explain on your application why your grades were initially low and why you feel you are someone who will do well in medical school. It is definitely an uphill battle.

well my GPA wud be around 3.2 then.... Overall but many subjects were multiple attempts because i was actually not into engineering
Does that make a difference
And if i am taking a full time course then would i be doing something like a postbaccalaureate premedical program ?
how long does that take and is that worth it or should i do a special masters program or a masters program in something like biomedical sciences ?
will that fix my GPA issues

It won't make much difference whether you do one of the programs you mentioned or if you take just the required pre-med courses. A 3.2 GPA isn't horrible, but that alone would not be good enough to get you into medical school. If your GPA in your pre-med classes that you are now going to take is much better, then you can possibly bring your average GPA closer to 3.5 which is what most people think is pretty typical to be considered for medical school, assuming your MCAT scores are decent as well.

i am an international student and here we have fixed coursed for fixed degrees and we cant take course separately...
i dunno how it works over there...
how will i take those premed course and how do i apply...
do i have to take up an entrance exam ?

There are dozens of websites (although I don't know if any of them are legit, or if they are just trying to take people's money) that specialize in helping international students get into US colleges. I'd have to do a lot of my own research before I'd be comfortable providing too much information. This is something with which I am not familiar.

If I were you, I'd read what I could find for free on the internet geared towards international students taking college courses in the US. You may also want to select a city where you think you would want to live. See what colleges are in that area and check out those college's websites. See if they have sections for international student applicants.

For example, if I look at University of Illinois in Chicago (Chicago is the nearest big city to where I live), they have a website for international students:

UIC International Student Website

On that website, they have resources and contact information. You can then contact their office with all of your questions. I am guessing most universities get a lot of questions and they might be slow to respond.

I just randomly picked another university, NYU, and did a google search for "undergraduate international student application NYU" and that led me to this page which has information for international applicants. They have links along the left side of the page with more information for international applicants.

I would suggest you start with this route of contacting a few universities in cities where you would like to attend. Find a contact email address for international applicants. Ask all of your questions in an email.

I would appreciate if you could update me on what sort of responses you get, as I'm sure that would be helpful for others with similar questions. I'm guessing most of the websites devoted to helping international students are just companies that take your money in exchange for giving you advice and helping you navigate the application process. My guess is you can do it yourself with the help of an advisor from a university that accepts international applicants. Perhaps if there is an experienced company, they could maybe help direct you towards the proper college based on your goals. I don't know enough about the field to be able to recommend such a company.

Best of luck.

i actually don understand how it works...
Sorry for bothering you so much..
I was checking on this link http://services.aamc.org/postbac/
it was giving the courses of premed available....
is this also an option and i was looking to study in chicago or philadelphia
how are these postbac courses different from taking courses separately from universities